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Hans Kelsen, the Theory of Law
and the International Legal
System: A Talk
Norberto Bobbio and Danilo Zolo*
1 Meeting Kelsen
D.Z I believe you met Kelsen only once, in Paris in 1957. Do you remember anything
particular about that meeting?
N.B. Thats true, the only time I actually met Kelsen was In Paris in 1957 . The
occasion was an international seminar organized by the Institut International de
Philosophie Politique, with Rene David in the chair and Raymond Polin, the real
promoter of the initiative, as secretary. I immediately signed up . I may not have taken
part in the first of the meetings, but I did attend all of the later ones, which were held at
the Fondation Thiers in Paris. They were fairly restricted seminars, with around twenty
people taking part . The proceedings of the meetings were subsequently published in
the Annales de philosophie politique, published by PUF Paris. The theme for 19 5 7 was le
droit naturel.
D.Z. Did you have any other contacts, for instance by letter, with Kelsen?
N.B. No. I recall only that at the Paris meeting Kelsen showed he appreciated the
arguments in my report on natural law. And I recall that in his Allgemeine Theorie der
Normen, in the 1979 Vienna edition, he comments, in part critically, on a text I had
written before the Paris meeting, namely Considerations introductives sur le
ralsonnement des juristes, published in the Revue Internationale de Philosophie in
1954. Someone who knew Kelsen better than I, and earlier, was my friend Renato
Treves, another disciple of Gioele Solari.
D.Z. Yet it is you who is regarded as the real importer ofKelsenism into Italy.
N.B. In fact it was Renato Treves, who as long ago as 1934 ha
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